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| Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa! Waheguru Ji Kee Fateh! I have some thoughts and questions regarding the calendar for Sangat's consideration. As we know, the time periods have been defined according to the earth's rotation, its rotation around the sun and the phases of moon. Northern India has traditionally used a combination of lunar and astrological calendar. Even though the circadian and seasonal cycles are difficult to miss and moon cycles seem unimportant, the entire nature, from the deep sea to the birds and bees, depend heavily on the phases of moon also. The waxing and waning of moonlight and the gravitational pull during the new moon and full moon play a definite role in the life of all creatures. We do not fully understand what other effect moon may have on us. The spiritual people consider that the moon also effects our psyche. For this reason, during ancient times, major religious functions were held during full moon. But no single full moon is special. And Guru Ji did not tell us to wait for a full moon to do Naam Simran. A full moon or new moon has little significance if all we do on a religious holiday is to visit the beach, do shopping or play golf, go sightseeing, visit a crowded place of worship, take dip in a sacred river, wear new clothes, or eat more Kheer and sweets. The issue of moon phases has no place in a calendar that is in common use and is implemented commercially. For a calendar to be popular it has to be useful in the business sectors. Otherwise it will hang only in our bedrooms. The Gregorian calendar is accepted by the businesses worldwide. If we feel a need to break away from a group that wants to assimilate and devour us with a phylogenic claim to our ancestry, then why do we continue to follow their astrological system of months? An astrological calendar has no scientific basis. In other words, astrology has not been scientifically investigated and proven as a valid science. This does not mean that it is useless. But I suspect that the astrological calculations are not always accurate because heavenly bodies are not fixed. There is a greater margin of error. For further interest, please see http://skepdic.com/astrolgy.html If the beginning of each month in our calendar does not have to coincide with the astrological calendar then why does our calendar follow the same pattern? Why does it not coincide with the existing Gregorian calendar? Creating an entirely different system, unless for a scientific reason, would assure that this calendar is never adopted by the world. What was wrong with starting our Chet on March 1st, and so on? Is there a scientific reason for not doing this? Compositions in Gurbani regarding the dates days or months were not written to idolize or sanctify any particular day month or a system of calendar, but to remind us of our spiritual goals at every possible interval in time. It is important that we retain the nomenclature of Gurbani in our calendar. It is also important to include phases of moon. It is not necessary to use the astrological calendar of that time in the business applications today. I like the idea of starting the calendar from a year of some universal importance. But Guru Nanak's birthday also has universal repercussions. We could also start our calendar with Bhagat Kabir's birthday in 1399, as he is the first writer of Gurbani in SGGS. This would generate wider acceptance. We need to fix all the Gurpurabs according to their original Gregorian date. For example, if we say Guru Nanak's Birthday was on Kartik Pooranmashi, then we should fix it as whatever the Gregorian date was on Kartik Pooranmashi in 1649. I hope this is how they have determined the Gurpurab dates already. I was not able to verify this. Rather than fighting over it, we should respect the sentiments of our Hindu brethren, and others, and celebrate their holidays on the days they prefer. We could encourage them to standardize their dates also. After all, a date is just that, a date. I would rather see it fixed than floating. Whoever wants to, should continue to use the Jantri in their personal routine. We could even include that calendar in our calendar. But lunar and astrological dates have no importance in a commercial calendar. We need to grow out of this tradition. I think that SGPC or Akal Takht should not be involved in this controversy until the dust has settled. A calendar has no spiritual significance. Let the people follow what they want. I feel that this issue is not final yet. Finally, who comes up with these Muslim names like Khalistan and now, Nanakshahi? These names do not represent Sikh values. Did Guru Nanak ever call himself a Shah? Would Guru Nanak approve such a name? I find such names derogatory to the Sikhs. Why not call it simply the Sikh calendar? Yuktanand Singh Saline, Michigan, USA |
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