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| Mr Pillai: There is nothing new to your post. We seem to have gone back to the same questions. My recommendation is that we bring it to a graceful closure. If you don't agree with me please let me know and we can continue. CLOSING ARGUMENTS Mr Pillai I would begin by saying that in none of my posts I have ever asked people to convert to Sikhism. Sikhism is not a religion that one can easily convert to. It is a challenging way of life that needs to be lived everyday. Only people who have strong convictions and integrity of character are able to live Sikhi to the fullest. Yes, I mean that many Sikhs themselves don't understand let alone live the Sikh way of life. You need to be a good Hindu as much as I need to be a good Sikh. The words of the Guru come to mind. Guru Nanak taught Hindus to be better hindus and Muslims to be better muslims. To muslims he said: Make compassion your mosque, Faith your prayer mat, Make honest living your scripture, Let modesty rule your conduct, Let piety be your fasts, Let right conduct be the Ka'aba, Truth your Prophet, Make the Lord's Will your rosary. In such a way become a Muslim. To hindus he advised (in reference to their holy thread); From the cotton of compassion, Spin the thread of contentment, Tying the knot of continence, Give it the twist of virtue, Such a sacred thread O Wiseman, Fabricate for your inner self. Our discussion started with your disapproval of one of my posts. I replied back by stating that none of the facts were false since they are the commonly held beliefs by majority of the Hindus. These books are common texts available in any bookstore. Your background seems to be Arya Samaj. Not all Hindus agree with the teachings of Dayanand. Of course, no non-Hindu has much respect for him because of his utterances. However, this is not the point. I also provided you with material from various sources to bring to your notice that Hindus don't seem to have any single interpretation of their religious texts. I posted the review of the book by Professor Ram Gopal. He has been honored as a National Professor of Hinduism. I think it is the Government that bestows such honors. Much of what you write is not in total agreement with him. Maybe you should take this matter with the Ministry of Education, Government of India. They should be able to guide you better. I also provided you with other references including one by Swami Shivananda, The Divine Life Society, Rishikesh. You're opinion is at variance with that of Swamiji. Please take the matter with him. This forum is not meant to discuss Hindu theology. This is a place for Sikhism related issues. You stated that the Vedas have been authored by God Himself. You also provided a quote from the Vedas where God talks about Brahmans, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas, Shudras and of course people who are low and thoses who are lowest-of-low. My argument is that if God authored the Vedas then he DEFINITELY divided mankind into these categories when he wrote the Vedas. Why would God do so? You haven't answerd this question. Interestingly, if I agree with your vedic quote it leads me to two conclusions: 1. God is DISCRIMINATORY because He divided man into categories at the time of creation. 2. If these words are not God's then how can Vedas be authored by God Himself. They definitely have some other authorship, perhaps a human. This is for your community to discuss and deliberate. It is not a debate I'm interested in. Also 'nishads' - the evil people. Why would God talk about evil? Why would he want a world where there would be evil? Don't you think He had a choice to create a world that was NOT evil. And why not. After all, He was creating things from scratch. As a Sikh I don't agree with you. Sikhism teaches me that God created this world as a place of righteousness. If this world is not a place that it SHOULD BE it is because of man's own ego. Man has NOT realized his divine nature and what is expected of him. The world is God's creation and it is beautiful because that is what God is. In other words, God did not create an evil world. Man has forgotton the essence of being human. This is the chief message of Sikhism when we say Truth is high, but higher still is truthful living. Because, it is this truthful living that will take us to the world that God has created for us. We are His subjects. And what is this world that God created for us. The City Joyful is the name of that city - Suffering and sorrow abide not there. Neither is there worry of paying taxes, nor does any hold property; Neither fear of punishment for error nor of decline. This fine place of habitation have I found: Brother! there weal perpetual reigns. Eternally fixed in the kingship therein: No second or third are there; all are alike. Ever fully populated, famous is that city. Those abiding therein are prosperous, opulent. There people disport themselves as they please - All are inmates of that mansion; none bars any. Saith Ravi Das, the cobbler, freed from all bonds; Whoever of that city is citizen, is our friend. (SGGS: p.345) Further, you consider the four Hindu castes as 'four great social organs of mankind.' If these are four SOCIAL ORGANS then why can't a Brahmin do the job of a Shudra. When was the last time you saw a Brahmin go into a Shudra neighbourhood and collect their faeces and their garbage. Please provide an example of any such event. Similarly why can't a Shudra read the Vedas and perform the duties of a Brahmin. When was the last time a Shudra was allowed in Jaganath Puri. Moreover, how can someone be BORN INTO A SOCIAL ORGAN. Why is the son of a Brahmin always a Brahmin? Why can't a Shudra become a Brahmin and perform the job of this social organ. Again, this is not an issue I'm interested in. Every human being irrespective of caste, color, creed etc is allowed in a Gurdwara. Every human being can read Guru Granth Sahib and preside over Sikh religious functions. Can't you tell the difference. Now comes the issue of sati. Thanks for providing the 'actual' meaning. Incidently, the author from who's article I quoted is aware of this 'justification.' She doesn't agree with it. Below I will post the article. You can contact her and let her know of your disapporval. Mr Pillai, you have a problem with the interpretation of Hindu philosophy. This is an issue you need to take up with your brothers and sisters in faith. It was a pleasure to share views with you. I thank you for your time. I wish you luck and happiness. Regards ******************************************************************************** You can read the entire online version of the book Genocide of Women In Hinduism http://dalitstan.org/books/gowh/ This chapter proves that Sati was a result of Brahmin oppression and cruelty. Initially introduced by barbaric Aryan invaders, the Brahmins enforced it upon the non-Brahmins in order to confiscate the properties of the non-Brahmin widows and to exterminate non-Brahmins races so as to establish an ethnically cleansed `Brahmavarta'. **************************************** Sati - Brahmin Annihilation of Widows Chapter 5 Genocide of Women in Hinduism by Sita Agarwal The Aryans, upon their invasion of India ca. 1500 B.C. introduced the horrific custom of sati, ie. the burning of a woman after the death of her husband. When performed singly it is referred to as sati, when performed en masse by all the women and daughters of a town in anticipation of their widowhood (eg. when the men were to fight a battle against all odds), it is known as jauhar. It is sanctioned by their most sacred texts, and was practiced from the fall of the Semito-Dravidian Indus Valley civilization to the modern age. 5.1 SCRIPTURAL ENFORCEMENT The most sacred of Aryan scriptures are the Vedas, and the Rig Veda, the oldest veda, explicitly sanctions the custom of sati. The following famous `Sati Hymn' of the Rig Veda was (and still is) recited during the actual immolation of the widow [ Kane 199-200 ]: - Rig Veda X.18.7 : " Let these women, whose husbands are worthy and are living, enter the house with ghee (applied) as corrylium ( to their eyes). Let these wives first step into the pyre, tearless without any affliction and well adorned." -- [ Rig Veda X.18.7 ] [ Kane 199-200 ] In recent times some Aryan apologists have arisen who try to prove that this verse does not sanction sati. This concept arises from a mistaken reading of the word agne or agneh , which they believe is agre . This is a wrong interpretation, and other evidence exists that the Aryans definitely practiced Sati from the earliest times. These fabricators distorted the Sati verse which directs the widow to enter the pyre (agneh) so as to mean that the wife was to rise from her pyre and go to the front (agre). These fraud Brahminist historians also wilfully ignore several other citations from scriptures which explicitly allow Sati : The Garudapurana favourably mentions the immolation of a widow on the funeral pyre, and states that women of all castes, even the Candalla woman, must perform Sati. The only exceptions allowed by this benevolent author is for pregnant women or those who have young children. If women do not perform sati, then they will be reborn into the lowly body of a woman again and again till they perform Sati. [ Garuda.Purana. II.4.91-100 ] [ Kane 237 ]. A sati who dies on the funeral pyre of her husband enjoys an eternal bliss in heaven [ Daksa Smrti IV.18-19 ] [ Sm.Samu p.30 ] [ 1200, p.65 ] According to Vasishta's Padma-Purana, a woman must, on the death of her husband, allow herself to be burnt alive on the same funeral pyre [ DuB.345 ]. Yajnavalkya, the most important law-giver after Manu, states that sati is the only way for a chaste widow [ Apastamba.I.87 ] [ 1200, p.65 ] The Yogini Tantra enjoins upon Brahmana widows to burn themselves on the funeral pyre of their husbands [ Yog.T. II.303-308 ]. Vaisya and Sudra widows were also allowed to do it. It was prohibited to unchaste women and those having many children. [ 1200, p.67 ] The Vyasa Smrti gives one of the two alternatives for a Brahmana widow, ie. either to become a sati or to take up ascetism after her tonsure [ Vyasa Sm. II.53 ] [ Sm.S. p.362 ] [ 1200, p.67 ftn.136 ]. What more can I say about these golden verses from the `Holy' Vedas, the Gita and the Puranas - guidelines for every true Hindu woman ! Needless to say, bigoted Hindu fanatics like Vivekananda, `Mahatma' Gandhi and the Ramakrishna Mission always ignore these verses in order to fool gullible Westerners that Sati does not exist or is the result of some Pakistani ISI conspiracy. Further, the Vishnusmirti gives only two choices for the widow: Vishnu Smirti.XXV.14 : "If a woman's husband dies, let her lead a life of chastity, or else mount his pyre" -- [ Vis.Sm. xxv.14 ] [ Clay.13 ] Brahma is one of the main Aryan gods, being the creator of the world ( later he was identified as an incarnation of Vishnu ). One of the Puranas is named after him, the Brahma Purana. Like other Puranas, it was composed after the Vedas ( Pandits hold 4000 B.C., Indologists 700 B.C.) This scripture also sanctions sati: Brahma Purana.80.75 : " It is the highest duty of the woman to immolate herself after her husband ", -- [ Br.P. 80.75 ] [ Sheth, p.103 ] Once again we hear that sati is sanctioned by the Vedas: Brahma Purana.80.75 : " [ Sati ] ... is enjoined by the Vedas ", -- [ Br.P. 80.75 ] [ Sheth, p.103 ] and Brahma Purana.80.75 : " [ Sati is ] greatly reputed in all the worlds " -- [ Br.P. 80.75 ] [ Sheth, p.103 ] Long life is promised to the sati: Brahma Purana.80.76, 80.77 : " She [ the sati ] lives with her husband in heaven for as many years as there are pores in the human body, ie. for 35 million years. " -- [ Br.P. 80.76, 80.77 ] [ Sheth 103 ] Vishnu Dharmasutra XXV.14 contains the statement: Vishnu Dharmasutra XXV.14 : " On her husband's death, the widow should observe celibacy or should ascend the funeral pyre after him." -- [ cf also Vishnudharmottarasutra VIII.p.111 for the same verse ] [ 1200, p.65 ] [ Vis.Dh.Sh.XXV.14 ] Several other scriptures sanction widow-burning. Some of these are as given below [ Wilk ]: "It is proper for a woman, after her husband's death to burn herself in the fire with his copse; every woman who thus burns herself shall remain in paradise with her husband 35,000,000 years by destiny." "The wife who commits herself to fames with her husband's copse shall equal Arundathi and reside in Swarga (heaven)." "Accompanying her husband, she shall reside so long in Swarga as the 35,000,000 of hairs on the human body. "As the snake-catcher forcibly drags the serpent from his earth, so bearing her husband [from hell] with him she enjoys heavenly bliss." "Dying with her husband, she sanctifies her maternal and paternal ancestors and the ancestors of him to whom she gave her virginity." "Such a wife adorning her husband, in celestial felicity with him, greatest and most admired, shall enjoy the delights of heaven while fourteen Indras reign." "Though a husband had killed a Brahman, broken the ties of gratitude, or murdered a friend she expiates the crime." -- [ Wilk ] What more need we say about the `liberal' verses from the `holy' Hindu texts ? All these astonishing citations can be verified; the references are given in full at the end of this book. There is no secondary step in between; I have directly cited from the holiest Hindu law-books. These quotations show that Sati is deeply enshrined in Hinduism as a virtuous act right from the Vedic age. It is hence an inherent part of Hinduism and is not due to any `Puranic corruption', but was practiced during the `wonderful Golden Vedic Age' by the Aryan savages. 5.2 ARYAN SATI GODDESSES The Vedic Aryan origin of sati is further evident from the fact that several Aryan ladies and `goddesses' performed sati : Several of Krishna's wives performed sati upon his death, including Rukmini, Rohini, Devaki, Bhadraa and Madura [ Mah.Bhar. Mausalaparvan 7.18 ] [ Alld, p.977, 1018-1019: Rukmini ] Madri, second wife of Pandu, considered an incarnation of the goddess Dhriti, performed sati [ Mah.Bhar. Adiparvan 95.65 ] [ Alld, p.985 ] Rohini, a wife of Vasudev, Krishna's father, who gave birth to Balram ( Devki's child ), later became a sati. [ Alld.1018 ] The Vishnu Purana refers to this mass burning of Krishna's wives : Vishnu Purana.V.38 : " The 8 queens of Krishna, who have been named, with Rukmini at their head, embraced the body of Hari, and entered the funeral fire. Revati also embracing the corpse of Rama, entered the blazing pile, which was cool to her, happy in contact with her lord. Hearing these events, Ugrasena and Anakadundubhi, with Devaki and Rohini, committed themselves to the flames." -- [ Vis.Pur. 5.38 ] [ Vis.Pur. {Wils} p.481 ] What true, divine models for all Hindu women ! These are the idiotic women who allowed themselves to be cruelly burnt alive on the deaths of their husbands. Later on, they were elevated to goddesses to brainwash more non-Brahmin women into performing Sati ! 5.3 ANCIENT TRAVELLERS' ACCOUNTS The abundant observations by ancient travellers testifies to the ubiquity of the practice and the ruthless rigour with which it was enforced. Alexander the Great and the Greeks observed Sati in Punjab [ Onescrites in Strabo xv.i.ch 30 ] [ Barth 59 ]. The Greek Diodorus Siculus who lived in the 1st century BC, mentioned the practice of sati in his account of the Punjab in the 4th century BC [ EB 11:421 ]. Indigenous historical evidence substantiates this, for ` The earliest recorded historical instance of sati is that of the wife of the Hindu general Keteus, who died in 316 B.C. while fighting against Antigonos. Both his wives were eager to perform sati, but as the elder one was with child, only the younger one alone was allowed to carry out her wish.' -- [Sheth 104] It is to be noted that the earliest inscriptions in India are dated to only a few decades before this particular citation of sati. In other words Sati is attested in the oldest inscriptions discovered in India, proving that it dates to the greatest antiquity. The sati rite was customary for the widows of Kshatriyas in the end of the first century BC as mentioned by Strabo [ Strabo XV.ch.700.30 ] [ Harp.273 ]. Sati was performed by all the Aryan races, for it is recorded that the Germanic tribes used to immolate the widows of chieftain to accompany the husband to Valhalla [ Harp. 273 ] [ David.150 ]. The Scythians also performed a similar rite. This pan-Indo-European occurrence of Sati further confirms that Sati was practiced by the Indo-Aryan barbarians. The Arab writer Alberuni mentioned the practice of sati among the `Hindus'. [ al-B. ii p.155 {Ch.LXIX}; ii p.170 {Ch.LXXIII} ] " She [ the widow ] has only to choose between two things - either to remain a widow as long as ashe lives, or to burn herself, and the latter eventuality is considered preferable ... As regards the wives of kings, they are in the habit of burning them whether they wish it or not." -- [ al-B.ii.p.155 {Ch.LXIX} ] This shows that the Hindu kings forcibly burnt their women against their wishes. What true fruits of Vedic philosophy ! Later travellers also refer to this horrible practice : `Nicolo deo Contei states that as many as 3000 of the wives and concubines of the kings of Vijayanagar were pledged to be burnt with their lord on his death [and often ministers and palace servants accompanied the king in death]' -- [ Bash.188 ] During the era of Anglo-Brahmin colonialism, when the Brahmins betrayed the nation to the Anglo-Saxon invaders and collaborated with them, the Pandits were free to re-enforce the harsh Vedic sati laws which had been uprooted by the Islamic liberators. Hence the Brahmins thwarted the best efforts of the Non-Brahmin Ram Mohan Roy to stop it [ Harp.273 ]. That Sati actually revived during Brahmin-British rule is also confirmed by the Abbe DuBois - " [Sati] is more in vogue on the banks of the Ganges, [while] in Bengal Presidency [only] 706 suttees occurred in 1817 [and in] the Madras Presidency [out of] 30 million inhabitants not 30 allow themselves to be burnt each year." -- [DuB.357 ] DuBois mentions with horror the brute custom of sati : `[the wife] must, on the death of her husband, allow herself to be burnt alive on the same funeral pyre [of her husband]' -- [ DuB.345] Contemporary literature is replete with references to the practice of sati : One hundred queens of the Chedi king Gangayadeva burnt themselves after the death of their husband king at Prayaga [ 1200 p.65 ]. Sati was not only practiced by the wife of the deceased. Even slave girls, mothers and sister-in-laws were forcefully burnt alive when a man died. So cheap is the life of a Hindu woman ! Dhanapala in his `Tilakamanjari' (p.156) refers to slave girls going towards the funeral pyre to burn themselves when they learned the death of their master. [ 1200, p.66 ftn.132 ] In the 4th act of the Venisamhara (VII.15) we find the mother of the dead hero coming to the battle field to enter his funeral pyre along with her daughter-in-law. [1200 p.66 ] Gajja, the mother rof Anada, burnt herself with her deceased son [ Raj.Tar. VII.1380 ] [ 1200, p.66 ]. Vallabha died with her brother-in-law Malla [ Raj.Tar. VII.1486 ] This shows that the brute custom of sati was merely designed to destroy womanhood as a whole, and non-Brahmin women in particular. Sati still continues to this day. In 1990, more than 50 widows were burnt alive as satis. [ Verma ] This, once again, is the Brahmin conspiracy at work, destroying non-Brahmin women. Tonsuring of the head was another evil that widows had to face. The widow was supposed to look like a sannyasi, so that no one would be attracted to her [ 1200, p.69 ]. The braid of hair, if continued by the widow, would supposedly result in the husband being put in bondage in the next world [ Skanda Pur., Kashikhanda 4.74 f ]. If a widow does not become a sati, she should get her head tonsured [ Vedavyasa II.53 ]. That these restrictions were enforced is indicated by the contemporary literature. Thus the young widowed daughter of a merchant ( who kept her well-guarded ) had to devise ways and means to enjoy her lover [ Akhy, p.192-193 ] [ 1200, p.69 ]. 5.4 BRAHMIN FRAUD HYPOTHESES Several bizarre hypothese have been set forth by obscurantist Brahminists to fabricate non-Vedic explanations for the occurrence of sati, often with less than honest intentions. All these frauds are herein exposed : Corruption : One silly canard spread by the Brahmins is that the custom of sati started when `Hindu' society started to `degenerate' in the Puranic Dark Ages. If so, then why do the Vedas take this custom for granted? Why did Krishna's wives perform sati? Are we to then conclude that Krishna, an incarnation of Vishnu himself, was a corrupt `Hindu'? Again, where did this corruption come from? When did it start? If some outsiders introduced this eivl into India, then it must be one of the Greeks, Bactrians, etc. But they came 1000 years after Krishna! They themselves also do not practice this act ! Krishna was one of the earliest Aryan figures, and this story could hence have not been an invention, since the Aryans were very scared of altering anything in their tradition. These observations prove the Vedic origin of Sati. Islamic Califate and Sati : One far-fetched Hindu fundamentalist idea ascribes the origin of sati as being due to the molestation of `Hindu' women by Muslim men. Thus the bigoted Brahminist historian Sudheer Birodkar writes [ Birodkar, Ch.3 : The Hindu Ethos ] : " From the 13th century onwards up to the coming of the British, the position of women was insecure due to the arbitrary power structure associated with the feudal society and the rule of the Sultans of Delhi. Although during the reign of the later Mughals the situation had improved relatively, women in the medieaval ages were often exposed to the lust of feudal overlords. Their insecurity increased after the demise of their husbands. This compulsion which was resultant of a particular age was by far the most important reason for the prevalence of Sati during the middle ages. " Needless to say, this fallacious theory would imply the existence of Muslims to molest Krishna's wives, Madri and the galaxy of Vedic Aryan women who performed self-immolation. It also overlooks the accounts by ancient Greeks and Arabs on the prevalence of sati. In fact, the Muslim emperors took active steps to abolish sati. (eg. Ghiyasudin, Akbar, Muhammed Tughlaq) and the Sufi saints condemned it. Thus, we find that Muhammed Tughlaq opposed Sati [ Nand, p.173 ] The saintly Aurangzeb manifestly opposed the custom of sati and prohibited it in his empire. The Brahmins should also answer, Which Muslims inserted the Sati hymn into the Vedas ? Here are some questions for bigoted Brahminist historians such as Sudheer Birodkar, R.C. Majumdar and Swami Vivekananda about their fraudulent hypotheses on the Islamic origin of Sati : Which `Muslim invaders' molested Krishna's wives, forcing them to perform Sati ? Which Muslims introduced the Sati hymns into the Vedas ? Which Muslims fabricated the whole lot of Hindu scriptures of Puranas, Smrtis and Shastras, inserting the verses praising Sati ? Were the Ocean of Story, the Jatakas and the Panca Tantra authored by Muslims in order to fabricate evidence of Sati ? There is only one reason for the propagation of these lies by the Brahmins; that is to cover up their horrible genocide of non-Brahmin women by means of Sati. Now the real reason for Sati has been exposed: it is nothing but Hinduism, and springs from the barbaric Vedas. 5.5 BRAHMIN CONFISCATION OF WIDOWS' PROPERTIES There were two main objectives for the Brahmin genocide of widows: firstly, to annihilate the non-Brahmin races by destroying their women, and secondly, to confiscate the properties of the murdered women. The second aspect is vividly described by the French traveller Jean-Baptiste Tavernier, who visited India 6 times between 1641 and 1667. He was a jeweller by profession, and came to India as a result of his involvement with the gem trade. Because he was not a Christian missionary, what he wrote is the result of his own experiences and cannot be dismissed as an inherent religious bias. In fact, his writings display a marked admiration for India. However, like all observers he was struck by the intense exploitation of non-Brahmin races by Brahmins. This unprejudiced traveller clearly describes Brahmin mass murder of non-Brahmin widows and their confiscation of their wealth : "The Brahmans accompanying her [ the Sati ] exhort her to show resolution and courage, and many Europeans believe that in order to remove the fear of that death which man naturally abhors, she is given some kind of drink that takes away her senses and removes all apprehensions which the preparations for her (p.165) death might occasion. It is for the interest of the Brahmans that these unhappy women maintain the resolution they have taken to burn themselves, for all the bracelets which they wear, both in arms and legs, with their earrings and rings, belong of right to the Brahmans, who search for them in the ashes after the women are burnt. According to the station and wealth of the woman, the bracelets, earrings, and rings are either of gold or silver; the pooorest wear them of copper and tin; but as for precious stones, they do not wear them at all when going to be burnt." -- [ Tavernier, Vol.II, p.164-165 ] Tavernier's heart-rending descriptions of the manner in which the cruel Brahmins tied the shrieking woman to posts and then burnt her alive are followed by narratives of greedy Brahmins looting the properties of the women they had killed : " I have seen women burnt in three different ways, according to the customs of different countries. In the kingdom of Gujarat; and as far as Agra and Delhi, this is how it takes place : On the margin of a river or tank, a kind of small hut, about 12 feet square, is built of reeds and all kinds of faggots, with which some pots of oil and other drugs are placed in order to make it burn quickly. The woman is seated in a half-reclining position in the middle of the hut, her head reposes on a kind of pollow of wood, and she rests her back against a post, to which she is tied by her waist by one of the Brahmans, for fear lest she should escape on feeling the flame . In this position she holds the dead body of her busband on her knees, chewing betel all the time; and after having been about half an hour in this condition, the Brahman who has been by her side in the hut goes outside, and she calls out to the priests to apply the fire; this the Brahmans, and the relatives and friends of the woman who are present imedi ately do, throwing into the fire some pots of oil, so that the woman may suffer less by being quickly consumed. After the bodies have been reduced to ashes, the Brahmans take whatever may be found in the way of melted fold, silver, tin, or copper, derived from the bracelets, earrings, and rings which (p.166) the woman had on; this belongs to them by right, as I have said." -- [ Tavernier, Vol.II, p.165-166 ] These descriptions taken directly from Tavernier's Travels (see the References section for the full reference) prove that it was the Brahmins who enforced Sati upon the non-Brahmin races in order to exterminate them and to steal their wealth. It must be remembered that Brahmins had by this time infiltrated the Mughal administration, permitting the continuance of Sati in the Brahmin-occupied regions of India despite prohibitory orders from Mughal kings. It is these inflitrators, such as Mahesh Bhat alias Birbal the Brahmin who sabotaged the Mughal Empire, eventually destroying it. 5.6 BRAMIN EXTERMINATION OF DRAVIDIAN WOMEN The poison of Brahmanism had already seeped deep into the veins of South India when Tavernier arrived. The slow but steady Brahmin genocide of Dravidians was in full swing. Tavernier was himself witness to many scenes of Brahmin men murdering Dravidian women in cold blood by the most horrible means imaginable. Here is one such description of the Brahmin murder of a Dravidian woman : " In the greater part of the Coromandel coast the woman does not burn herself with the body of her decased husband, but allows herself to be interred, while alive, with him in a hole which the Brahmans dig in the ground , about 1 foot deeper than the height of the man or woman. They generally select a sandy spot, and when they have placed the man and woman in the hole, each of their friends fills a basket of sand, and throws it on the bodies until the hole is full and heaped over, half a foot higher than the ground, after which they jump and dance upon it till they are certain that the woman is smothered. " -- [ Tavernier, Vol.II, p.168 ] One need only recall the other mind-boggling invention which the Brahmins enforced upon the subjugated Dravidian women : Devadasism. This system involved the mass rape of Dravidian women by their Brahmin masters, who pressed them into prostitution. This served several purposes : while the Brahmins bred a new loyal mixed race by impregnating these captive women, the proceeds earned by these women whom the Brahmins forced into prostitution went into the pockets of the Brahmins themselves ! 5.7 MODERN REVIVAL OF SATI Ever since the transfer of power from British raj to Brahmin raj in 1947, the Pseudo-Secularist Brahmins, the Kautilyan Communist Brahmins and the Hindutva Brahmins have all been conspiring to revive the Sati custom in order to exterminate the non-Brahmin races. At the highest echelon of the Hindutva brigade one finds the leaders full of praises for sati. This is what the Brahminist leader of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad said : " VHP Acharya Giriraj Kishore [stated]: "There is nothing wrong if any woman who cannot bear the separation from her husband opts to join him in his funeral pyre." ... "Dharmendra Maharaj [was] the priest who presided over the ritual of self-immolation committed by Roop Kanwar upon the death of her husband in Rajasthan. Dharmendra Maharaj of Jaipur, is in no mean a position within the hierarchy of the religious parliament. He is the president of the Sansad`s Kendriya Margadarshan Samiti, the steering committee of the religious parliament" -- [ Revive ] Such is the extent by which the Brahmins have brainwashed the non-Brahmin women that even Rajput women in the Sangh Parivar support the reinstatement of sati ! " BJP leaders like Vijaya Raje Scindia, the queen-mother of the royal family of Gwalior favor the now-outlawed "sati" system ("sati" was a horrible practice where the widow was burnt along with her dead husband) and the degenerate Hindu caste system where Brahmans and other upper castes remain the leaders of the society" -- [ Partha ] [ Dowry ] Those women who do not commit sati are often forced into `reservations' where only widows live. One such place is Vrindavan [ Roy ]. In all this, these pious Hindu women are merely being guided by the Vedas and other sacred Hindu scriptures. These are the source of all suffering for the non-Brahmin women. As long as this so-called `religion' of Hinduism exists, there shall be immeasurable suffering for women. Women shall remain chained under the Brahmin yoke as long as there is the evil of Hinduism. |
