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Summary of Question:	Question About Gurus And God
Category:	General Sikhism
Date Posted:	Sunday, 1/09/2005 3:02 AM MST

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You said:
"There is a statement in Siri Guru Granth Sahib that says that there is no difference between God and Guru"

If there is absolutely no difference between two things, then they must be the same thing. Therefor this means that God and our ten gurus were the same thing. This means that the gurus on earth WERE God. In the Mool Mantra, Ajoonee describes God as unborn. This is a blatant contradiction. How can the gurus and God have no difference at all, yet one be a mortal human and the other be Akal Purakh Waheguru? This does not add up at all. What sense do you make of this contradiction?

(REPLY) Sat Nam. It is simply an apparent contradition. The "Oneness" is of consciousness, not of Form. God is both formless and with form. And, our Gurus blended their individual consciousness with the universal consciousness - so in effect, they were the same. God can manifest in any form,and does. We, as Sikhs worship the Word of God and embodied in Siri Guru Granth Sahib. But before Guru Gobind Singh installed the Shabd Guru as our living Guru, we bowed to the divine consciousness as embodied in the various "human" forms in which God prevailed. In the Mul Mantra Guru Nanak describes God as the "embodiment of deathlessness" (Akal Moorat), yet Birthless, Ajoonee. God is not to be intellectually comprehended, but to be experienced, and that is why we chant God's Name, and chant shabds from Siri Guru Granth Sahib, which include DHAN DHAN RAM DAS GURU because again, as Guru Nanak told us, thinking and thinking will not give the result. I hope this satisfies your query -- I do not mean to offend anyone by my response. Each person, each Sikh, has the privilege to relate directly to God and Guru as they feel in their heart and soul, that is one of the beautiful aspects of Sikhi. SP